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Flight Consultant
posted by Jordan on 2008/8/30 (Comics)
Holy crap on a stick, that took me forever. Going on a week and a half now, and I do apologize. I've just been busy with all kinds of stuff the past two weeks, and I've been distracted by about ten other projects, so I haven't had the time I wanted to finish it. Pile on top of that the writer's block I suffered for the first half of the issue, and it was not a pleasant experience.
Either way, it's done now, and hopefully this will dispel some of the arguments in the comments. That last issue is scary. 
Although I do expect this to just spawn a whole new truckload of epileptic trees, so we'll have to see. As always, I should just remind everyone to play nice.
Finally, I'm moving back to University on Monday, so there might be a lull in the updates again while I get settled, but I'll try not to let myself get so far behind again. Now if you'll excuse me, Mass Effect is calling my name again.
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Unfortunately, I also managed to get horribly addicted to playing Dwarf Fortress in the past couple days as well. If it's not Mass Effect, it's something else...
If DEKW is reading this, STOP SPYING ON ME OR POST SOMETHING!
lol
Great ComicI am just trying to show that you and most other people could be wrong and am putting up evidence to support other theories, not exclude yours! While it seems to me that you are trying to show me that it is even likely that ur explanation is true...
Althugh I agree with you about the new probabilities inside stories, I do not recognize theis "probability" as irreputable evidence of you being right.
Becuase my explanation which I think are possible to happen (The whoosh really being someone else... such as another vamp unter or something....) is equally unlikely AND so in a stroy, equally likely to occur. You are failing to find flaws in my scenarios! Which means that you recognize them as possible and because I am not saying they are probable, what are we debating about anyways?
Theatrics are there whether Elan says so or not. Entertainment stories would be significantly less interesting if only probable things happened, and since entertainment stories try to be interesting, a new breed of probability is born. This comic isn't exempt from that, and it wouldn't necessarily be a good thing if it was. Adventuring party's hired bounty hunter happens to be party leader's long-lost girlfriend, and first-class traveling vampire hunter is residing in Northhaven when the party vampire's stock of canned blood runs out, (and he does an improbably good job making sure he's the first "victim" she sees). Finx knowing that Keriss would be heading for Aldran's party and selling her a scroll for his ship and it being pure coincidence strike me as equally improbable.
4: I'm seeing him undoing his cape, walking to the window, drawing his sword, and vanishing with a Woosh.
You guys both basically repeated the same arguments so I will only respond once...
1. This isn't OOTS and Elan's genre logic is not applicable for this comic. Besides, its Elan.... I don't take what he says seriosuly, like Kaal...
Also, although Dooplis said that it is possible for Aldran to have wings he failed to describe exactly why this scenario is probable or even likeley... therefore I am not going to resond and I stick with my opinion for now.
2. Although I agree with the fact that flying can make a different sound every time, this was just an observation which didn't proove your point. It is probably the weakest of all my arguments.
3. I only added in the science for fun and to show that it is only 50% likely that Aldran and Eldin both have wings. Eliminating science, you still have the point that any twins don't nessacarily look the same, even in stories...
4.It was made quite obvious that Eldin had cast spell, so much that everyone assumed it although it is possible that he didn't... Get what I said back there?
Archetype, just because Xykon made "whoosh" sounds while flying does not mean that in a different comic, a "whoosh" has to 100% mean that someone is flying.
You see, the main difference between our debate sides is that you are trying to prove a point withiut doubt.
I am mereky trying to show that what you are suggesting is just that: a suggestion and not the only possible scenario. Therefore, since you do not have the benefit of future comics for now, I am basically guaranteed to win... just by presenting an alternate scenario and showing how it could be possible...
Phew...... Wow... 2 long posts in a day....
I've had enough for now, I'm waiting till next comic before I restart my arguments...
2. Flying has a bunch of different sound effects, woosh and swoosh being only two. I'm guessing the woosh is for take-off and swoosh for a diving bull rush/charge. Expect loop-the-loop and barrel roll sound effects in the near future! XD
3. This is a fantasy comic that parodies a well-known role-playing game. I'm not going to take science into account unless it fits in with the plot (i.e., practically never).
4. I thought he was casting a spell myself, and even guessed Wind Walk. Now I'm remembering Xykon's entrance into the fray during the Invasion of Azure City arc, and how the party figured out that he was right on top of them. Buncha wooshing goin' on there. Aldran is likely winged as well.
2: I don't see why flying needs to make the exact same noise at all times. Especially when one is taking off and the other is swooping down. Also, Eldhin also had a Woosh to start off.
3: The poor catgirls... Ignoring the probability that a winged thing would be supernatural and breeding-traits would carry over abnormally, theatrics would never allow that not to be the case unless it was to build up a revenge plot of some kind.
4: I didn't see Eldhin preparing to cast a spell... I thought people (including me) just assumed he cast something.
Those of you who remembered my arguments shall know that I am not giving up! I still stand by my point that Aldran was not flying.
1.Although they are brothers and don't like each other doens't mean they are evil opposites, this isn't OOTS guys.
2. The sound was different! We heard a "Swoosh" un this comic indicatiing that Eldin was flying while in the other comic it was a "Whoosh". Similar but not the same....
3.Just because they are brothers doesn't mean that they must look exactly the same. Say their mother was a human and their father was some winged thing: It is possible that only Eldin or Aldran would get the wings (meosis is a random process involving random splitting of the chromosomes which can't be predicted before they start to split - A little geeky i know... XD )
4. I believe that the wings are just a spell as they were not on Eldin before. Although we saw Eldin preparing to cast a spell, Aldran did no such thing. (Lana could not hear any words although she could hear a "whoosh" meaning that he was within her range of hearing)
Phew... Long post.... Hope some people get convinced by this and follow my path of no wings for Aldran...
lol. XD
Awesome El!
Awesome Keriss!
Also, love the swooOOOSH!
The Wing Theory came primarily from Aldran's mutterings/whoosh/sleeve-tearing when compared to Eldhin's window-jump.
Oh, and Mass Effect is awesome.
Also, for those who assume that he has levels in Favored Soul, that class is not in the SRD. Going further with my (over)analysis, I'm guessing that Eldhin is a half-celestial (or half-fiendish) Cleric, patron deity presently unknown.
@Doopliss: I think the Erinyes had dark-feathered wings, and no celestials had any non-light wings. Since Eldhin and Aldran are TWIN brothers, they likely both have angelic wings, though I'm also guessing that Aldran will have white wings.
3.5 had a devil or two with black feathered wings, and I don't think any celestials.
)Just wow
yeah I bet Aldran has some white ones I'm curious why they have them though. Is it a spell or are they natural?
mallconfused:Keriss is at a very obvious disadvantage. Not only is she face-to-face with a high-level and intelligent Cleric, but she also has no real edge aside from MAYBE diplomacy on him. Rangers and Clerics are fairly even on the social skills scale, as neither have Sense Motive, Bluff, or Diplomacy as class skills (though Clerics can, with the right domain, rectify this). She'll have to tread VERY carefully until Aldran works whatever magic he has prepared for the day...
If Eldhin is as high-level as I believe he is, this could prove to be a battle of epic proportions. I don't believe Aldran has been seriously challenged yet in this comic, and that should change very, very soon...
Egads, I can hardly wait to see how it all plays out.
Thought I'd get my shots in now before I go comatose till the next comic.
I guess Aldran has himself some white ones, just to be opposite?
They ARE bird-people! o_O
Awesome.